tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30422881.post1864074939854443785..comments2023-12-21T09:41:50.526-05:00Comments on Lesboprof: Looking for a job after tenureLesboprofhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09249806181782620274noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30422881.post-47200775043802931592010-09-25T16:47:47.119-04:002010-09-25T16:47:47.119-04:00I was approached by an institution about a job abo...I was approached by an institution about a job about five years post-tenure. At first I demurred, as I wasn't interested. But about mine months later, after they were unable to fill the position, they came back to me again.<br /><br />The second time I gave it more thought, and decided it was worth at least investigating. You are right that it's much easier when you're in the position of <b>not</b> needing a new position - this puts you in a much better bargaining position.<br /><br />To make a long story short, I interviewed for the other job, was offered it, and gave it serious consideration. It was a very good offer, for an endowed chair at a prestigious institution. But in the end, my partner and I decided that it wasn't the right time for us personally, and professionally it wasn't enough of a draw.<br /><br />But the offer from the other institution was enough to cause my current home to counter with a very good package (including a part-time administrative position), much more than I would have otherwise received. This wasn't my goal when I started the process, but in the end, it worked to my advantage. I know enough about the way the game works that this is generally the only way you can get a substantial increase in salary and perks, rather than relying just on incremental increases through the annual review process (or even internal promotion).<br /><br />So my general recommendation to people is that if there is a position out there that you are seriously interested in, i.e., you can see yourself living in the community and working at the institution, then it is worth investigating. The worst case is that you'll discover your current situation is perhaps not so bad after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30422881.post-74600139940091237922010-09-17T19:22:03.006-04:002010-09-17T19:22:03.006-04:00I moved as a full professor, from being a departme...I moved as a full professor, from being a department chair at my old uni to being a director of a faculty development unit at my current u. The move was somewhat happenstance, in that I'd been wanted to move out of my former city, but hadn't much been looking (mostly b/c of the two-body problem; my partner is also an academic and getting two jobs together, again, seemed hard to do).<br /><br />I saw my current job posted on some listservs (I wasn't looking at the regular job postings in the Chronicle and whatnot) and then got contacted by the search committee chair (who had gotten my name from someone else in the field who had probably suggested a number of people). I decided to apply and all the rest of the details eventually worked themselves out, so here I am.<br /><br />Senior hires seem so idiosyncratic that I don't know that my observations would lead to any advice. I can't imagine someone who would have done an internal search deciding to do an external search b/c of your interest (usually the internal/external decision is a matter of budget, set from above). But letting those in your professional network know that you are interested in moving seems like a good idea. (The tricky thing there is not having your current colleagues learn about this and get cranky. Even though I think that's a bad thing to get cranky about, but that's another topic.)<br /><br />I'm glad you brought this up--we don't talk enough about career paths post-tenure (or the fac-to-admin moves).susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000470374101306070noreply@blogger.com